kirmesimKopf avatar
kirmesimKopf
1
1 year ago

Getting diagnosed

How is the normal way of getting adhd diagnosis in your country? Especially when your an adult who haven’t got diagnosed as a kid. In Germany it’s pretty difficult for an adult to get the official diagnosis. I have to see my normal doctor in the first place, than a neurologist who now send my to the adhd specialist where I have to do a 3 day psychology test. And I have to wait 15 months for this appointment. After all that you also have to prove, that you already had adhd symptoms as a kid (under the age of 12) that causes you problems. It must affect at minimum 2 parts of your current life. Only after all that you can get a diagnosis and therapy or / and medication. So I was wondering if that’s the same procedure in other country’s?

onlinesongs avatar
onlinesongs
1y

hi i’m from america, my situation was a little complex. took a while to get the right diagnosis. *long story incoming* i was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and adhd at 15 after an inpatient stay at a psychiatric hospital. i remember briefly taking medication and seeing a therapist, but then stopping and not going from ages 17-20. i didn’t really understand adhd and i truly believed i had bipolar disorder. i took myself back to therapy at 20 and i had forgotten that i had received the adhd diagnosis at 15. since i was going somewhere different at 20, they didn’t have my history, but i told them about the bipolar because i believed i was experiencing manic episodes. in my 20s, i cycled through different bipolar meds, therapists and psychiatrists on and off. i would always stop going and start back up again with someone else for various reasons like insurance, boredom, etc. i had been in therapy for a while from age 25-27 with a therapist i really really loved and he was helping me so much, but i wasn’t on meds then. i finally went to see a new psychiatrist at age 27 when he suggested i might consider meds again. that new psych at johns hopkins did an intake and then 3 monthly follow up appointments with me. at the 4th appt, she said “based on what you’ve told me and you’re history, i actually think you’re suffering from untreated adhd.” i was honestly shocked and angry because by then, bipolar was part of my identity and it was an explanation for my struggles. i questioned her judgement, said my symptoms were textbook bipolar, and she said “i just think you don’t understand adhd, the symptoms can be similar. and you’ve been self-medicating for years already with illicit drugs that don’t affect you the way they affect your friends, as you’ve mentioned.” i said “i’ve seen 6 different therapists and 5 different psychiatrists before you who never mentioned adhd, only bipolar. why would i trust you over 11 other professionals?” i ended up leaving and never going back. not long after, i switched jobs at work from a flexible one where i made my own schedule and was largely unsupervised and spent a lot of time socializing at the office, to a desk job requiring 8 full hours of attention at my desk. within 6 months my new colleagues were complaining that i was never at my desk, always wandering around, getti distracted, etc. they jokingly asked if i had adhd. after realizing how impossible it felt to do my desk job, i thought about what the last psych said, and sought out another brand new psychiatrist at the johns hopkins women’s mood disorder clinic. a few months into her getting to know me, she agreed with the previous psychiatrist and diagnosed me with adhd and prescribed adderall which i’ve been on for a few years now. it immediately made a WORLD of difference - i’m 30 now and my work and personal life is so much better. it’s crazy to think i spent so long thinking i couldn’t get my “bipolar” in check because i had the wrong diagnosis all that time. but it happens a lot. thankfully in america, if you have good insurance, you can seek out whatever mental health professionals you want without a referral or waiting period. that’s how i switched so many times. i’m actually employed by johns hopkins, have been since i was 21, and we have a commercial private insurance plan owned by johns hopkins for employees specifically called “employee health plan”. so all of my doctors are part of the johns hopkins health system, and i don’t need referrals to them because i have johns hopkins insurance. i’m extremely fortunate, and not everyone in america is in this way. but if you “have the means” aka good insurance, it’s fairly easy to get diagnosed if you truly have adhd. for those without, it’s much harder because we don’t have universal health care here and the impoverished and vulnerable communities suffer 😢

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mewdhd
1y

Also bei mir war es tatsächlich etwas einfacher.. Ich hatte während ich mich in Therapie wegen Depressionen befand den Verdacht, der auch schon als Kind bei mir bestand und dann wieder verdrängt wurde, ich hab ADHS. Hab meinen Therapeuten drauf angesprochen, der hat mit mir den "Test" gemacht (Fragebogen über Kindheit und aktuell) und dann bin ich zu einer Psychaterin, die dann mit mir in Gesprächen und auch einem anderen Test die Diagnose gestellt hat... ich hoffe dass dir damit einigermaßen geholfen ist aber meistens ist zu wissen was man hat schonmal gut damit man weiß wo man ansetzen kann :)

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kirmesimKopf
1y

Ja genau, überhaupt die Erkenntnisse haben zu können, dass so vieles dadurch erklärt wäre und es einfach macht damit umzugehen macht es irgendwie schon ein bisschen leichter.

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adhdJC22
1y

I'm not entirely positive why they would make such an illness so daunting. I feel like if I was able to do that AND remember my appointment 15 months later than I wouldn't have adhd. As for help, I know nothing about Germany and their system. What I will say is medication is not a cure all (as a lot of us would agree) and it is good that you're being proactive right now with being on the app. These tips I feel help me more than my meds do.

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ADOoooPretty
1y

I'm so sorry to hear that! There are things you can do to treat ADHD without medication. :Look up foods beneficial to people with ADHD. It'll be foods rich in vitamins, minerals people with ADHD are deficient in, along with foods that prompt your brain to produce the chemicals ADHD brains are deficient in. :Get yourself on a routine. While your ADHD brain will get bored with it, it is vital to get yourself on a sleep schedule, and some form of routine to help keep your brain from distributing hormones, vitamins, minerals, brain chemicals differently every day because it doesn't know what you're going to do next. :I'm not too sure if naturopathy is popular in your country, but getting a holistic opinion on how to approach it could also help. They may not require an actual diagnosis, or possibly even be able to help you get one. :Do your own research! Look up other disorders linked to ADHD. I don't know them all, but ones I have are neurodivergent, DSDP, RSD, Hypermobility. Finding ways to manage these will also help. :Check out Dr. Daniel G. Amen's research on the 7 different types of ADHD. It isn't recognized science, but has helped me navigate my own ADHD different, and in my opinion better than before finding his research.

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ADOoooPretty
1y

You're so welcome!!

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kirmesimKopf
1y

Thank you so much ☺️🙏🏻

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alyzzamariee
1y

I'm so sorry, that sounds horrible! In the USA, I've never been able to get diagnosed because they continually try to tell me I just have depression or anxiety.... I mean, I'm sure I do, but I ALSO have ADHD lol. I downloaded an app called "done." that is supposed to help me get diagnosed quicker but it's still been a few months and haven't been diagnosed yet.... 🤔 She said maybe at my next appointment in August... I don't truly understand the waiting period... I think she's hoping I'll just give up and stop coming to appointments...which is very likely honestly 😩

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kirmesimKopf
1y

That’s so exhausting… I totally understand that! I wish the doctors would learn more about it and just see the clear signs. As I experienced it, the doctors often don’t have the ability to see the whole peace instead of just little points or side effects of the real problem - the adhd. I send you some good thoughts and wish you the best for your journey! Don’t stop fighting for yourself and your health! 🫂🤗

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lisajaynet
1y

I’m in Australia but I’m not sure as I haven’t been diagnosed, all I hear is how hard it is to do as an adult and as a woman apparently. That sounds like a long winded process to be honest😬 hopefully someone here can provide some insight for you🙂

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